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. >> good morning ainsley, first things first that top job at the pentagon since we are one day closer to the devastating automatic cuts to the defense departments potentially being brought about by the sec quest tore on the first of march. even during such an uncertain time some republicans want to make sure the correct person is installed as defense secretary. they are ready to keep asking questions until they are satisfied enough to vote one way or another on chuck hagel. >> the debate on chuck payihage not over. it has not been serious. we don't have the information we need and i am going to fight the idea of jamming somebody through until we get answers about what the president did personally when it came to the benghazi debacle. i think democrats have no problem doing that with bush and they did the country a service by probing in. >> terri reed who is generally okay with the policies says public obligation is generally political. >> nom nae for secretary of defense has been filibuster. what a shame. that is the way it is. >> john brennan mostly because he hasn't perceived the an
. >> good morning ainsley, first things first that top job at the pentagon since we are one day closer to the devastating automatic cuts to the defense departments potentially being brought about by the sec quest tore on the first of march. even during such an uncertain time some republicans want to make sure the correct person is installed as defense secretary. they are ready to keep asking questions until they are satisfied enough to vote one way or another on chuck hagel. >> the...
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if griffin at pentagon. thank you. u.s. factory production dropped in january after twoson months of gains. stocks finished the week flat. dow was up 8. s&p lost 1-1/2. the answer to the question what happened the night terrorist hit the u.s. facilefy in benghazi, libya, might be what day is it? almost every day brings another detail or revision or contradiction of what we heard earlier. tonight, chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge tells us what we know and what we don't. >> according to a leading republican who said he spoke with clapper, the top intelligence officer. >> i was told by clap they're the president was informed of the attack. >> as if the president wanted anything done, neither clapper office or the security council spokesman addressed the question. >> this is the most transparent administration in history. congress is running out of things to ask. >> the president tries to minimize benghazi in google chat. ref cent statement by his administration are not adding up. in the first
if griffin at pentagon. thank you. u.s. factory production dropped in january after twoson months of gains. stocks finished the week flat. dow was up 8. s&p lost 1-1/2. the answer to the question what happened the night terrorist hit the u.s. facilefy in benghazi, libya, might be what day is it? almost every day brings another detail or revision or contradiction of what we heard earlier. tonight, chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge tells us what we know and what we don't....
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and you see now the pentagon just ended a deal for a smartphone that can determine your fingerprints and face the scanning details ahead. it's thursday february fourteenth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching r.t. will begin zeroing in on a massive piece of equipment that could transform the way the military conducts its missions drones have made their way into the mainstream conversation as senators demand more transparency and thus far secret drone campaign as of now we have a drone bases in places like pakistan in djibouti africa as a covert drone warfare becomes a critical foreign policy strategy we can expect even more of these bases to pop up but what if we didn't need to set up a base in these volatile countries well that could be the case of drone aircraft carriers were put to use while you are looking at right now the navy's x. forty seven b. drone aircraft which is in the testing phase the first take off that sees set to happen sometime this year so how can this change the u.s. military strategy discussed i was joined earlier by michael brooks pr
and you see now the pentagon just ended a deal for a smartphone that can determine your fingerprints and face the scanning details ahead. it's thursday february fourteenth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching r.t. will begin zeroing in on a massive piece of equipment that could transform the way the military conducts its missions drones have made their way into the mainstream conversation as senators demand more transparency and thus far secret drone campaign as of...
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at the pentagon, jennifer griffin, fox news. >> bret: millions in the northeast are digging out. and powering up after a mas massive snowstorm over the weekend. at least 15 deaths are blamed to system that dumped up to three pet feet of snow in some places. school, businesses and roads were closed today. 130,000 people remain without power. most in massachusetts. parts of mississippi are cleaning up tonight from a huge tornado. this is what it looksed like sunday in hattiesburg. this is what it looks like today. the twister danieled buildings at the university of southern mississippi. more than 60 people were hurt in three counties but there have been formerly no reports of fatalities. in time for valentine's day', fortune cookies minus the romance. apparently there is nothing you cannot gamble on. the odds of the next pope coming up in the grapevine. great, everybody made it. we all work remotely so this is a big deal, our first full team gathering! i wanted to call on a few people. ashley, ashley marshall... here. since we're often all on the move, ashley suggested we use fedex
at the pentagon, jennifer griffin, fox news. >> bret: millions in the northeast are digging out. and powering up after a mas massive snowstorm over the weekend. at least 15 deaths are blamed to system that dumped up to three pet feet of snow in some places. school, businesses and roads were closed today. 130,000 people remain without power. most in massachusetts. parts of mississippi are cleaning up tonight from a huge tornado. this is what it looksed like sunday in hattiesburg. this is...
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like to see this big mess for the country meanwhile in his last public appearance before retiring the pentagon chief leon panetta admitted he backed the plan of arming syrian rebels however the white house reportedly vetoed the idea russia was on void to the un told r.t. that despite this the u.s. still has a lot to do with the ongoing crisis in syria the full version of vitaly churkin exclusive interviews on our website r.t. dot com. but the united states chose to stay clean of the bad guys at some point of the crisis the did realize it seems that things going very wrong you know that that is terrorist groups were coming in that the radical islamists are where we're active and that the original scenario they had in mind that it would take just a couple of months to topple the assad regime and then sort of democracy will triumph was completely unrealistic but i mean they're not us this is an extremely powerful country definitely with a lot of an influence on for example such a country as qatar which is reportedly of the main source of weapons and support for for armed opposition so the fact th
like to see this big mess for the country meanwhile in his last public appearance before retiring the pentagon chief leon panetta admitted he backed the plan of arming syrian rebels however the white house reportedly vetoed the idea russia was on void to the un told r.t. that despite this the u.s. still has a lot to do with the ongoing crisis in syria the full version of vitaly churkin exclusive interviews on our website r.t. dot com. but the united states chose to stay clean of the bad guys at...
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see this big mess filling the currency meanwhile in his last public appearance before retiring the pentagon chief leon panetta admitted he backed the plan of arming syrian rebels however the white house reportedly vetoed the idea russia was on void to the un told r.t. that despite this the u.s. still has a lot to do with the ongoing crisis in syria the full version of vitaly churkin exclusive interview is on our web site r.t. dot com. but the united states chose to stay clean of the bad guys at some point of the crisis the did realize it seems that things going very wrong you know that various terrorist groups were coming in that the radical islamists are where we're active and that then original scenario they had in mind that it would take just a couple of months to topple the assad regime and then sort of democracy will try elf was completely unrealistic but i mean do notice this is an extremely powerful country definitely with a lot of enter influence on for example such a country as qatar which is reportedly of the main source of weapons and support for for armed opposition so the fact
see this big mess filling the currency meanwhile in his last public appearance before retiring the pentagon chief leon panetta admitted he backed the plan of arming syrian rebels however the white house reportedly vetoed the idea russia was on void to the un told r.t. that despite this the u.s. still has a lot to do with the ongoing crisis in syria the full version of vitaly churkin exclusive interview is on our web site r.t. dot com. but the united states chose to stay clean of the bad guys at...
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we just got word from the pentagon that panetta is heading to california tonight, to monterrey. the ride is also getting bumpy for the president's choice as top spy master. the complication and confusion continues to multiply surrounding what happened last september 11. both in libya and back here in washington. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge has an update. >> the president's pick to lead the c.i.a. counterterrorism advisor john brennan faces new and up comfortable obstacles about the benghazi terrorist attack and the administration handling of the suspect al-harzi. this letter pushes them to explain disparity between his sworn testimony and that of former secretary of state hillary clinton. >> they insisted that the tunisia authorities did not have the evidence to keep him in custody. >> tunisias did not have a basis in their law to hold him. >> so they released him? >> they did. >> where is he? >> still in tunisia. >> it doesn't sound like a good system to work with partners. >> they work the way we do. >> f.b.i. interviewed him for two hours in december a
we just got word from the pentagon that panetta is heading to california tonight, to monterrey. the ride is also getting bumpy for the president's choice as top spy master. the complication and confusion continues to multiply surrounding what happened last september 11. both in libya and back here in washington. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge has an update. >> the president's pick to lead the c.i.a. counterterrorism advisor john brennan faces new and up comfortable...
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is it also as critical for your nominee to head the pentagon? >> no question about it. no question about it. and what we just sent up the letter-- we sent in response questions on benghazi, as we said, latest interaction and 10,000 pages of documents that we've provided to the congress on this matter. the president's focus is, okay, let's account for what happened. let's reform and make sure it never happens again. let's get our guys in the position so they can help us make sure it never happens-- >> schieffer: and you said you'd let them see these e-mails. >> there's an ongoing effort. i'm not going to nearby that here with you bob. there's an ongoing effort, and i think we're making very good progress on that. >> schieffer: mr. chief of staff, thank you so much. i hope you'll come back. >> i'll be happy to come back any time. >> schieffer: all right, we want to go outside washington new to talk about what dennis mcdonough talked about. haley barbour is a former republican party chairman, former governor of mississippi. he is in jackson this morning, and cory booker, o
is it also as critical for your nominee to head the pentagon? >> no question about it. no question about it. and what we just sent up the letter-- we sent in response questions on benghazi, as we said, latest interaction and 10,000 pages of documents that we've provided to the congress on this matter. the president's focus is, okay, let's account for what happened. let's reform and make sure it never happens again. let's get our guys in the position so they can help us make sure it never...
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including senator graham of south carolina said necessity believe hagel is unqualified to head the pentagon but they should move forward with a vote. national correspondent is live in washington, dc. will the challenge actually prevent hagel's confirmation from going forward? >> no, he is making a statement. hagel has the votes. senator graham is raising questions about his support of israel. >> allegedly senator hagel said that the united states state department was an adjunct of the israeli foreign minister's office which would be breath taking to have such a view. >> the former senator denied making that statement and senator graham said he will take hagel at his word unless new information emerges. >> senator john mccain says the senate should go ahead and confirm hagel because there has been enough time for questions. >> the republicans have been spending a lot of political capital on this. what is the white house saying about the nominations being delayed? >> they don't like it. they know hagel probably will be confirmed. the president said last week that much of the questioning about
including senator graham of south carolina said necessity believe hagel is unqualified to head the pentagon but they should move forward with a vote. national correspondent is live in washington, dc. will the challenge actually prevent hagel's confirmation from going forward? >> no, he is making a statement. hagel has the votes. senator graham is raising questions about his support of israel. >> allegedly senator hagel said that the united states state department was an adjunct of...
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do you think chuck hagel can run the pentagon? >> my inclination has been to give the president the prerogative of deciding who's in his cabinet. i voted for john kerry although i don't agree with much he represents as far as a u.s. senator, but i think he's an honest person and i think the president has the right to decide. with regard to hagel, my first inclination was to give him the benefit of the doubt. i'm for auditing the pentagon. i think there is waste to be found. he's a soldier. served honor bly. i'm starting to have doubts and they are that if you going to run department of defense, you need to reveal if you've had financing from foreign groups. there's rumors about foreign groups that may have provided financing and i think he needs to reveal that. i am saying yes, i need more information before making a final decision. >> all right, but do you think john mccain is right to filibuster given your point, that you may not like who the president picks, but it is his prerogative whom he chooses to be in his cabinet. >> i t
do you think chuck hagel can run the pentagon? >> my inclination has been to give the president the prerogative of deciding who's in his cabinet. i voted for john kerry although i don't agree with much he represents as far as a u.s. senator, but i think he's an honest person and i think the president has the right to decide. with regard to hagel, my first inclination was to give him the benefit of the doubt. i'm for auditing the pentagon. i think there is waste to be found. he's a...
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. >>> and the defense department today, former secretary of state hillary clinton was awarded the pentagon's highest recognition for a civilian employee. clinton thanked the group for her valentine's day gift. we should note also for the first time since her accident in december, clinton did not have to wear those corrective lenses she's been using for impaired vision from her fall. >> in the future we will be looking to your suck -- to keep our nation strong, free and exceptional. >> and pope benedict xvi has given his final mass in a rare ovation from the people assembled at st. peter's kba silica. nbc's anne thompson is live with us in rome and i don't think we knew the full extent of the troubles he was experiencing in mexico, that final trip where he was in mexico and in cuba, we knew there were scandals in the church there, protests for lack of an apology. but now it turns out he took a fall in the middle of the night and hit his head? >> reporter: he did and it was after that trip when he wind chill factor to cuba that the pope made the decision he was going to retire and started sett
. >>> and the defense department today, former secretary of state hillary clinton was awarded the pentagon's highest recognition for a civilian employee. clinton thanked the group for her valentine's day gift. we should note also for the first time since her accident in december, clinton did not have to wear those corrective lenses she's been using for impaired vision from her fall. >> in the future we will be looking to your suck -- to keep our nation strong, free and...
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up next, the hagel filibuster and sequester politics when former top pentagon official, and next, how close could that giant asteroid come to earth? just a little over an hour from now? look outside. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on only on msnbc. [ male announcer ] why is kellogg's crunchy nut so delicious? because every flake is double-toasted... splashed with sweet honey... and covered in rich double-roasted peanuts. mmm. [ hero ] yummy. [ male announcer ] kellogg's crunchy nut. it's super delicious! [ male announcer ] kellogg's crunchy nut. ( ♪ ) for those nights when it's more than a bad dream, be ready. for the days when you get a sudden call from the school, be ready. for the times you need to double-check the temperature on the thermometer, be ready. when you have children's motrin on hand, you're ready. for high fever, nothing works faster or lasts longer than children's motrin. be ready with children's motrin. this single scoop of gain gives more freshness than a whole box of this other stuff... and that much freshness is gonna take some getting used to... [ sniffing ]
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these drones out of the hands of cia agents and just put them in the hands of homeland security and the pentagon do you think that that would be an effective problem solver or would it just create more or less transparency i guess. people overestimate the degree to which deity is more transparent than cia there's actually some forms of accountability written in for cia that don't exist for d.o.d. that said the o.d.s. job is to go out and kill people like that like it or not but that is their job where cia and one of the most troubling things about this white paper that was released last week is it was written to a large extent for the cia and the cia is supposed to operate by different rules and more importantly the cia is supposed to not break u.s. law and in the case of killing anwar lockett there's actually a lot in the u.s. that prohibits killing american citizens overseas so well i don't think moving it to d.o.d. or restricting restricting it to d.o.d. will fix the oversight problem i do think that it'll fix some of the legal problems inherent with cia doing it now are a little bit earlier
these drones out of the hands of cia agents and just put them in the hands of homeland security and the pentagon do you think that that would be an effective problem solver or would it just create more or less transparency i guess. people overestimate the degree to which deity is more transparent than cia there's actually some forms of accountability written in for cia that don't exist for d.o.d. that said the o.d.s. job is to go out and kill people like that like it or not but that is their...
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to that point, all of a sudden we've got 3,000 dead americans, the trade towers are taken out, the pentagon's been hit. if it hadn't been for the folks on 93 they'd have taken out the white house or the capitol on washington, d.c. worst attack in our history. worse than pearl harbor by far. and it was our job to make certain it didn't happen again. we were concerned for a couple of rps, partly because the expectation was there would be a follow on attack, nearly everybody believed it. but we also received intelligence that al qaeda was trying to get their hands on deadlier weapons. >> rose: do you regret nothing about the aftermath in terms of how we -- >> regarding 9/11? >> rose: everything that we did and that you were and the president were at the center of the response to 9/11. look back and say "we regret nothing"? >> that's my view. >> rose: none? >> correct. >> rose: you know this has been debated, too. >> sure. >> rose: were we prepared for the consequences after saddam was overthrown? >> well, that was the second proposition. you asked me about the aftermath of 9/11, the policies we
to that point, all of a sudden we've got 3,000 dead americans, the trade towers are taken out, the pentagon's been hit. if it hadn't been for the folks on 93 they'd have taken out the white house or the capitol on washington, d.c. worst attack in our history. worse than pearl harbor by far. and it was our job to make certain it didn't happen again. we were concerned for a couple of rps, partly because the expectation was there would be a follow on attack, nearly everybody believed it. but we...
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you know there, have been tons of programs in the pentagon that the pentagon never wanted. that congresspeople have put in there. >> sure. howard dean, great to have you with us. always. >> thanks. >> appreciate it. wayne lapierre might be one of the greatest hucksters of all time. i'll show you what's behind his paranoia campaign next. tea party backers show a perverse sense of humor by creating a hillary clinton sex tape. david corn broke the story. he joins us on the panel tonight. stay with us. ♪ you know my heart burns for you... ♪ i'm up next, but now i'm singing the heartburn blues. hold on, prilosec isn't for fast relief. cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast. ♪ oh what a relief it is! bob will retire when he's 153, which would be fine if bob were a vampire. but he's not. ♪ he's an architect with two kids and a mortgage. luckily, he found someone who gave him a fresh perspective on his portfolio. and with some planning and effort, hopefully bob can retire at a more appropriate age. it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. â
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70 thousand children could be -3 kicked out of heed start programs for low income families..nd the pentagon may 33 defense workerss"weemight as well just pack up and go home, pecause if we're just going o have across-the-board cuts, what is the oint f our beeng here?"while emocraas and moderate republicans want to & slam on he sequester brakes... some connervatiie lawmakers & are cheering on the cuts."not & onll should theesequesterr stand; many punddts say tth sequesser is far hhrt, that we need $4 trillion in cuts." congress ann the white house &pweee able to postpone thh -& to avert theefiscal cliff.but top republicans caution ddn't expect anothhr delay.""here 33 this one. the days of 11th hhur nneottations aae over.. house speaker john boeener said if emoccats are so wwrriedd.. they shoull comm uu & sequester is there because the president insisted that ittbe phere."it was ashington's grreting...sealed with a kiss. ssnaae demmcrats have come up 3 don't like the plannbecause it inclldes new tax increases. to wook something outt but once aggin, it's a game of acosta cnn washhngton." -----
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some republican lawmakers the pentagon itself is partly to blame. jd gordon, former defense department spokesman for donald rumsfeld and robert gates. honor to have you on our program. >> honor to be here, bill. bill: what do you think about what he is making the point he is making? >> understand that he is frustrated but you know i think a lot of frustration should go back to the obama administration. it was the obama administration insist we have sequester if the debt super-committee failed to reach an agreement and they failed to reach an agreement. i remember very specifically at one of the presidential debates president obama told governor romney sequestration is not going to happen. two weeks away and looks like it will happen. it will be devastating for the military. we're talking about curtailed military operations around the globe. reduced funding for mint nance and training. 800,000 dod citizens are looking for furlough or forced time without pay. this will be devastating and we're just getting started with sequestration. bill: the last po
some republican lawmakers the pentagon itself is partly to blame. jd gordon, former defense department spokesman for donald rumsfeld and robert gates. honor to have you on our program. >> honor to be here, bill. bill: what do you think about what he is making the point he is making? >> understand that he is frustrated but you know i think a lot of frustration should go back to the obama administration. it was the obama administration insist we have sequester if the debt...
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our report tonight from our pentagon correspondent, jim miklaszewski. >> reporter: wedged deep into a valley surrounded by soaring mountains, combat outpost keating in eastern afghanistan was a death trap. for staff sergeant clint romesha, it was indefensible. >> every which direction you looked, you were looking straight up at the mountain. >> reporter: romesha and the other soldiers at cop keating were under constant attack. but in october 2009, the taliban launched the most ferocious assault ever. and unleashed a deadly downpour of fire like shooting fish in a barrel. >> 360 degrees, we were taking, you know, rfgs, machine gunfire, mortar fire was coming in. i mean, it was accurate. it was, you know, on target. it was pinning positions down. >> reporter: the americans were vastly outnumbered, nearly 400 to 52. in the first hour, three u.s. soldiers were killed. others pinned down by gunfire. and with no regard for his own life, romesha led five others on a rescue mission. >> it was going to be a knife fight, getting to where we were going. >> reporter: romesha took out an enemy mac
our report tonight from our pentagon correspondent, jim miklaszewski. >> reporter: wedged deep into a valley surrounded by soaring mountains, combat outpost keating in eastern afghanistan was a death trap. for staff sergeant clint romesha, it was indefensible. >> every which direction you looked, you were looking straight up at the mountain. >> reporter: romesha and the other soldiers at cop keating were under constant attack. but in october 2009, the taliban launched the most...
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the state department and pentagon would not confirm the state which has not been briefed to kwong. until now the u.s. has not agreed to sell them to anyone in the middle east. bret? >> thank you. should women have to disarm because they're women? is president obama bad luck for business? grapevine is next. i had enough of feeling embarrassed about my skin. [ designer ] enough of just covering up my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i started enbrel. it's clinically proven to provide clearer skin. [ rv guy ] enbrel may not work for everyone -- and may not clear you completely, but for many, it gets skin clearer fast, within 2 months, and keeps it clearer through 6 months. [ male announcer ] enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events, including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, nervous system and blood disorders, and allergic reactions have occurred. before starting enbrel, your doctor should test you for tuberculosis and discuss whether you've been to a region where certain funga
the state department and pentagon would not confirm the state which has not been briefed to kwong. until now the u.s. has not agreed to sell them to anyone in the middle east. bret? >> thank you. should women have to disarm because they're women? is president obama bad luck for business? grapevine is next. i had enough of feeling embarrassed about my skin. [ designer ] enough of just covering up my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i started...
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not only is virginia home to the pentagon, the world's largest u.s. navy base, but a hub for major defense contractors such as aircraft builders. so the impact over 200,000 jobs, second only to california. you can't want this automatic spending cut to go forward. >> you know, clearly this is not, david, the best way to go about trying to chroontrol spending. and we have demonstrated in the house two separate occasions -- one of the bills we put across the floor and passed i was the sponsor of for that reason. these are indiscriminate cuts. we can do a lot better. what i hope to be able to hear from the president in the state of the union is he wants to join us in trying to effect much smarter cuts in spending. >> but that's what he's saying. >> we don't have to have the impact that you just described. >> why not work with him on short-term measure which he is talking about to delay this, find a different way to go about some of the cuts? >> the problem is, david, every time you turn around the answer is to raise taxes. and, you know, he just got his t
not only is virginia home to the pentagon, the world's largest u.s. navy base, but a hub for major defense contractors such as aircraft builders. so the impact over 200,000 jobs, second only to california. you can't want this automatic spending cut to go forward. >> you know, clearly this is not, david, the best way to go about trying to chroontrol spending. and we have demonstrated in the house two separate occasions -- one of the bills we put across the floor and passed i was the...
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of people and people's districts or you see, you know, economic fall-out from these huge cuts in the pentagon which both parties have said they want to avoid, you might see republicans open to revenue. there are republicans on the record saying that they would look at revenue to block these cuts, the sequester. john mccain said that the other day. republicans to exact a political victory here need to get spending cuts. i mean, they settled for a deal in the fiscal cliff that was not good for party leaders. they are going to hold very, very tight on that, and, by the way, after the sequester -- >> do you think that tea party response is almost sort of covering their bases there? i mean, the tea partiers get to say we had a strong message and held tight to our values. you know, these moderates went and made deals with the president. we're not to blame. if you -- in effect trying to sort of head off primary challenge if one is going to come up in 2014. >> that's the question. ran paul is playing a tough game. he has a personal history with mcconnell, who supported, you know, his challenger down
of people and people's districts or you see, you know, economic fall-out from these huge cuts in the pentagon which both parties have said they want to avoid, you might see republicans open to revenue. there are republicans on the record saying that they would look at revenue to block these cuts, the sequester. john mccain said that the other day. republicans to exact a political victory here need to get spending cuts. i mean, they settled for a deal in the fiscal cliff that was not good for...